<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/' xmlns:georss='http://www.georss.org/georss' xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5872853369987620995</id><updated>2012-02-16T11:40:10.645-08:00</updated><category term='who is god? psalms 110'/><category term='torture'/><category term='proposition 8'/><category term='gay'/><category term='bible'/><category term='jesus'/><category term='holy spirit'/><category term='origin of the trinity'/><category term='trinity false teaching'/><category term='Revelation 17: 14'/><category term='jehovah'/><category term='isaiah 6: 1'/><category term='john 12: 41'/><category term='matthew 22'/><category term='Isaiah 9: 6'/><category term='hell'/><category term='devil'/><category term='burn in hell'/><category term='Isaiah 43: 10'/><category term='hell fire'/><category term='John 1: 1'/><category term='homosexuality'/><category term='trinity'/><category term='Deut. 10: 17'/><category term='holy trinity'/><category term='lesbian'/><category term='is jesus jehovah?'/><category term='collossians 2: 8'/><category term='prop 8'/><category term='homosexuals'/><category term='gay marriage'/><title type='text'>What Does The Bible Say About</title><subtitle type='html'>Written by a former Assemblies Of God member who after years of attending various churches only to eventually separate herself from all organized religion for several years - Recieved a knock on her door that came at just the right time.  While she was in the depths of despair, had experienced near death, and no longer wanted to live.  That knock on her door was a major turning point in her life.  Two years later, she became a baptized Jehovah's Witness, and has never looked back.</subtitle><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default?max-results=100'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>ArmedWithTruth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16001747653702207681</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>7</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>100</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5872853369987620995.post-7002396975567284939</id><published>2008-12-09T01:48:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-09T04:38:01.300-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jehovah'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='matthew 22'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='who is god? psalms 110'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='is jesus jehovah?'/><title type='text'>Who's Driving, Jesus Or Jehovah?</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;Who's Driving, Jesus Or His Father Jehovah God?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;Question:&lt;/span&gt; How many individuals can drive the same car at the same time?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;Answer:&lt;/span&gt; One, if you want to get anywhere.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;Psalms 110: 1&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;- 5&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; is a prophetic writing by King David (&lt;strong&gt;with double meaning&lt;/strong&gt;) of which one of those meanings was prophecy of a communication that would take place from Jehovah to his Son Jesus &lt;strong&gt;many, many&lt;/strong&gt; years after it was written. In fact the prophecy would not actually come true for many years after Jesus' resurrection and not completely for a while - even after Jesus is living back in heaven with his Father.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Psalms 110: 1 - 5&lt;/strong&gt; (see also Matthew 22: 41 - 46)&lt;br /&gt;Psalms says,&lt;br /&gt;(NWT)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk1"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; The utterance of Jehovah to my Lord is:“&lt;strong&gt;Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk2"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; The rod of your strength Jehovah will send out of Zion, [saying:]“Go subduing in the midst of your enemies.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk3"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Your people will offer themselves willingly on the day of your military force. In the splendors of holiness, from the womb of the dawn, You have your company of young men just like dewdrops.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk4"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Jehovah has sworn (and he will feel no regret):“You are a priest to time indefinite According to the manner of Mel·&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;chiz&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;´e·&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;dek&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;!”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk5"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Jehovah himself at your right hand Will certainly break kings to pieces on the day of his anger.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(King James Version) &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Psalms&lt;/span&gt; 110&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[1]&lt;/strong&gt; The LORD said unto my Lord, &lt;strong&gt;Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[2]&lt;/strong&gt; The LORD shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[3]&lt;/strong&gt; Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[4]&lt;/strong&gt; The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[5]&lt;/strong&gt; The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Based on the above verses - At some point Jehovah (God) intended to let his Son Jesus take the wheel in heaven. That is after Jehovah saw to it that Jesus' enemies were out of the way first.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;When was this prophecy actually &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;fulfilled&lt;/span&gt; you say?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;I'm tired of that 1914 crap you say?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;Fine -&lt;/span&gt; A specific date, and or time is not important. However, knowing whether or not one is living during a described time, or whether something has actually taken place based upon the signs and/or warnings given is . . . . . .&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;We know that when Jesus ascended back into heaven after his resurrection - that he went to sit at his Father's right hand, however it would be some time &lt;strong&gt;(according to earthly, human measurements of time see 2 &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;nd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;/span&gt; Peter 3: 8)&lt;/strong&gt; before Jesus' enemies were made into a footstool for his feet. Or in other words defeated and kicked out of heaven. There are several scriptures to point out here, but for the sake of time I'll quote: &lt;strong&gt;Ephesians 1: 20&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ephesians 1: 20 (NWT)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk20"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;20&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; with which he has operated in the case of the Christ when he raised him up from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ephesians 1: 20 (King James)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[20]&lt;/strong&gt; Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;When Were Jesus' Enemies Kicked Out Of Heaven In Order To Become A Footstool For His Feet?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Let's go back a little bit:&lt;/strong&gt; While still living on the earth with his disciples, Jesus was asked by them: "“Tell us, When will these things be, and what will be the sign of your presence and of the conclusion of the system of things?” &lt;strong&gt;Matt. 24: 3 (NWT)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;KJV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;) Matt. 24: 3&lt;/strong&gt; says, "Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jesus answered them (in part) as follows:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk6"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk7"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk8"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;8&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; All these things are a beginning of pangs of distress.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk9"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;9&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; “Then people will deliver YOU up to tribulation and will kill YOU, and YOU will be objects of hatred by all the nations on account of my name.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk10"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;10&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; Then, also, many will be stumbled and will betray one another and will hate one another.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk11"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;11&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; And many false prophets will arise and mislead many;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk12"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;12&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk13"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;13&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; But he that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk14"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;14&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; And this good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come. &lt;strong&gt;Matthew 24: 6 - 14&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;Not only has Jesus told his disciples what to look for in order to know that the "end" is near (a different kind of coming), but also the signs to look for that will indicate that Jesus is ruling as King in heaven - thus meaning that his enemies have finally been made a footstool for his feet (aka kicked out of heaven), thus allowing Jesus to TAKE THE WHEEL from his Father Jehovah (leave his right), and drive.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Are We Now Living In The Time Of Jesus Ruling With His Enemies As A Footstool For His Feet? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Yes - We are. Jesus Is Driving!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The earth has been for many years, and is currently experiencing all the things Jesus told his Disciples would happen as &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;mentioned&lt;/span&gt; in &lt;strong&gt;Matthew 24: 6 - 14&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Revelation 12: 12 - (&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;KJV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;) &lt;/strong&gt;Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. &lt;strong&gt;Woe to the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;inhabiters&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you&lt;/strong&gt;, having great wrath, because he &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;knoweth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; that he hath but a short time."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#cc0000;"&gt;But the Devil was kicked out of heaven long before Jesus came to the earth you say!?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#cc0000;"&gt;Not so!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Bible Says,&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Revelation 12: 7 - 12&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;KJV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;"[7]&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;And there was war in heaven&lt;/strong&gt;: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, &lt;strong&gt;[8]&lt;/strong&gt; And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[9]&lt;/strong&gt; And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, &lt;strong&gt;called the Devil, and Satan&lt;/strong&gt;, which &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;deceiveth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; the whole world: &lt;strong&gt;he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[10]&lt;/strong&gt; And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: &lt;strong&gt;for the accuser of our brethren is cast down&lt;/strong&gt;, which accused them before our God day and night.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[11]&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[12]&lt;/strong&gt; Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. &lt;strong&gt;Woe to the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;inhabiters&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you&lt;/strong&gt;, having great wrath, because he &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;knoweth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; that he hath but a short time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Verse eleven tells us&lt;/strong&gt; that this kicking Satan and his Angels (aka Jesus' enemies) out of heaven was made possible - &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;by the blood of the Lamb (aka Jesus' blood),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; therefore we know that this scene took place sometime after Jesus had died, been resurrected, and had gone back to heaven and sat at his Father (Jehovah's) right hand until the time was right.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So there you have it!&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;Jesus is driving right now! He is in charge. He is our KING, and Master.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jesus came for many reasons:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. He was sent by his Father &lt;span style="font-size:180%;color:#cc0000;"&gt;יהוה&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2. &lt;/strong&gt;To show us what his Father Jehovah is like - Therefore, If you know Jesus, you know the Father.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3.&lt;/strong&gt; To provide a spiritual resurrection (or awakening of the spiritually dead, those who sleep) with knowledge of truth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4.&lt;/strong&gt; To teach us what his Father &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;Jehovah&lt;/span&gt; wants from us.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5.&lt;/strong&gt; To show us how to survive in this world infested by Satan and his Angels until the time for their final destruction comes someday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6.&lt;/strong&gt; To someday provide a physical resurrection of the dead (aka those who sleep in death and are in graves) both righteous and unrighteous.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7.&lt;/strong&gt; To ultimately overcome and conquer death both spiritually and physically caused by sin and separation from God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#cc0000;"&gt;Question: Will Jehovah (God) ever take back the wheel?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#cc0000;"&gt;Answer: Yes, someday.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Corinthians 15: 25 - 28&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;(NWT)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk25"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;25&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; For he must rule as king until [God] has put all enemies under his feet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk26"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;26&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk27"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;27&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; For [God] “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that it is with the &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;exception&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; of the one who subjected all things to him. &lt;a class="vsAnchor" name="bk28"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;28&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; But when all things will have been subjected to him, &lt;strong&gt;then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him&lt;/strong&gt;, that God may be all things to everyone.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Corinthians 15: 25 - 28&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;(&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;KJV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[25]&lt;/strong&gt; For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[26]&lt;/strong&gt; The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[27]&lt;/strong&gt; For he hath put all things under his feet. But when he saith, all things are put under him, it is manifest that he is &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;*&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;excepted&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, which did put all things under him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;[28]&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him&lt;/strong&gt; that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;* exception&lt;/strong&gt; (meaning) something excepted; an instance or case not conforming to the general rule.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;* excepted&lt;/strong&gt; (meaning) To leave out; exclude:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5872853369987620995-7002396975567284939?l=armedwithtruth.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/7002396975567284939'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/7002396975567284939'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2008/12/whos-driving-jesus-or-jehovah.html' title='Who&apos;s Driving, Jesus Or Jehovah?'/><author><name>ArmedWithTruth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16001747653702207681</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5872853369987620995.post-1490253282096360016</id><published>2008-12-08T02:08:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-08T02:35:46.247-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hell fire'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='torture'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='bible'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='burn in hell'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='devil'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='hell'/><title type='text'>Hell?</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;What The h*ll is HELL anyway? Are you going there?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;object width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/SGOVnDJwy9w&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/SGOVnDJwy9w&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x3a3a3a&amp;color2=0x999999" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;Do you know where the word hell came from?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Does the bible really say that "bad" people are all going to a place of no return, where they will be tortured, and tormented for eternity? Does Jehovah God get enjoyment out of torturing his human creation?Has man altered God's word to use it to control people with fear and guilt, ie. hell fire?So, what is HELL anyway?&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5872853369987620995-1490253282096360016?l=armedwithtruth.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/1490253282096360016'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/1490253282096360016'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2008/12/hell.html' title='Hell?'/><author><name>ArmedWithTruth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16001747653702207681</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5872853369987620995.post-826664074274132216</id><published>2008-12-08T01:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-09T05:28:01.751-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='proposition 8'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homosexuality'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='lesbian'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='prop 8'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gay'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='gay marriage'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='homosexuals'/><title type='text'>Homosexuality?</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;What does the Bible say about &lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;homosexuality?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#cc0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What should be the Christian's Response to the Homosexual? As a Christian, we should pray for such individuals, and if possible try to win them over to God's way of thinking in word, example, and love. Although we as Christians do not approve of homosexual lifestyle practices, we should show compassion to such individuals as potential future brothers or sisters in Jehovah and his Son Jesus. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Corinthians 6: 11 states -&lt;/strong&gt; "And yet that is what some of YOU &lt;strong&gt;were&lt;/strong&gt;. But YOU have been washed clean, but YOU have been sanctified, but YOU have been declared righteous in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of our God."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;Homosexuality is clearly condemned by the Bible (God's word).&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Lev. 18: 22&lt;/strong&gt;, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Lev. 20:13&lt;/strong&gt;, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1 Cor. 6:9-10&lt;/strong&gt;, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither &lt;strong&gt;fornicators&lt;/strong&gt;, nor &lt;strong&gt;idolaters&lt;/strong&gt;, nor&lt;strong&gt; adulterers&lt;/strong&gt;, nor &lt;strong&gt;effeminate&lt;/strong&gt;, nor &lt;strong&gt;homosexuals&lt;/strong&gt;, 10. nor &lt;strong&gt;thieves&lt;/strong&gt;, nor &lt;strong&gt;the covetous&lt;/strong&gt;, nor &lt;strong&gt;drunkards&lt;/strong&gt;, nor &lt;strong&gt;revilers&lt;/strong&gt;, nor &lt;strong&gt;swindlers&lt;/strong&gt;, shall inherit the kingdom of God."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rom. 1:26-28&lt;/strong&gt;, "For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, 27and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error. 28. And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind, to do those things which are not proper."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Again:&lt;/strong&gt;  Homosexuality is clearly condemned by the Bible. It goes against &lt;strong&gt;&lt;a href="http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-is-sin.html"&gt;the created order of God&lt;/a&gt; (see &lt;a href="http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-is-sin.html"&gt;balance&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/strong&gt;. He created Adam and then made a woman. This is what God has ordained and it is what is right. Unlike other sins, homosexuality has a severe judgment administered by God Himself. This judgment is simple: They are given over to their passions. That means that their hearts are allowed to be hardened by their sins (Romans 1:18). &lt;strong&gt;As a result, they can no longer see the error of what they are doing&lt;/strong&gt;. Without an awareness of their sinfulness, there will be no repentance and trusting in Jesus. Without Jesus, they will have no forgiveness. Without forgiveness, there is no salvation.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5872853369987620995-826664074274132216?l=armedwithtruth.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/826664074274132216'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/826664074274132216'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2008/12/homosexuality.html' title='Homosexuality?'/><author><name>ArmedWithTruth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16001747653702207681</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5872853369987620995.post-8076072884558363359</id><published>2008-03-26T23:40:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-03-26T23:46:05.749-07:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='origin of the trinity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='trinity false teaching'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holy spirit'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='holy trinity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='trinity'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jesus'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='jehovah'/><title type='text'>Trinity Doctrine, A False Teaching Of Man, Council of Nicaea</title><content type='html'>&lt;object width="425" height="373"&gt;&lt;param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/S3z7PrzQDwE&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6&amp;border=1&amp;hl=en"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;param name="wmode" value="transparent"&gt;&lt;/param&gt;&lt;embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/S3z7PrzQDwE&amp;rel=0&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6&amp;border=1&amp;hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="373"&gt;&lt;/embed&gt;&lt;/object&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The trinity doctrine, is a false doctrine of Man&lt;strong&gt; that teaches ANOTHER JESUS&lt;/strong&gt; as warned in the Bible at - 2nd. Cor. 11: 3,4).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;That is to say, it teaches a Jesus that greatly differs from how Jesus spoke of himself in clear SIMPLE language throughout scripture.In 325, the Council of Nicaea adopted a term for the relationship between the Son and the Father that from then on was seen as the hallmark of orthodoxy; it declared that the Son is "of the same substance" (ὁμοούσιος) as the Father.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This was further developed into the formula "three persons, one substance."&lt;strong&gt;The Council of Nicaea was reluctant to adopt language NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE, and ultimately did so&lt;/strong&gt; only after one particular man showed how all strictly biblical language could also be interpreted to support his belief that there was a time when the Son(Jesus) did not exist - &lt;strong&gt;see Proverbs 8: 22 - 31&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Confession of the Council of Nicaea said little about the Holy Spirit.&lt;/strong&gt;[21]  The doctrine of the divinity and personality of the Holy Spirit was developed by Pope Athanasius I of Alexandria (c 293 - 373) in the last decades of his life.Athanasius eventually "invented dialogue to ridicule his adversaries", and used "suppression and distortion" to serve his own means.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;With that in mind&lt;/strong&gt;, and with the fact that the Council of Nicaea was reluctant to adopt language NOT FOUND IN SCRIPTURE, but ultimately did so, THERE IS REASON FOR TRINITARIANS to question this man made doctrine and the motives behind it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Bible gives these warnings:&lt;/strong&gt;  James 3: 14 - 16 says,[14] But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and &lt;strong&gt;LIE NOT AGAINST THE TRUTH&lt;/strong&gt;.[15] This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish.[16] For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work.&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5872853369987620995-8076072884558363359?l=armedwithtruth.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/8076072884558363359'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/8076072884558363359'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2008/03/trinity-doctrine-false-teaching-of-man.html' title='Trinity Doctrine, A False Teaching Of Man, Council of Nicaea'/><author><name>ArmedWithTruth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16001747653702207681</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5872853369987620995.post-2262341156751942471</id><published>2008-01-02T00:45:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-09T05:31:16.853-08:00</updated><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Revelation 17: 14'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='collossians 2: 8'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='John 1: 1'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Isaiah 43: 10'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='john 12: 41'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Isaiah 9: 6'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='isaiah 6: 1'/><category scheme='http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#' term='Deut. 10: 17'/><title type='text'>OF WHOSE GLORY DID ISAIAH PROPHESY?</title><content type='html'>&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Has Man Seen God - And Lived?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;An Anonymous Youtube&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; User Wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;Please read, even in the NWT, Isaiah 6:1 and compare to John 12:41 (and please read in context), &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;Colossians&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 2:8-9, Read Isaiah 43:10 especially last part of this verse and compare to Isaiah 9:6 and John 1:1, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Deut&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.10:17 and compare to Rev. 17:14.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;ArmedWithTruth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; Replies:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Below are the verses you wanted us “ Jehovah's witnesses” to look up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Note I will use the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;KJV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; as it is most widely accepted.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:85%;"&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 6: 1&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;“In the year that king &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;Uzziah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.”&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 12: 41&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These things said &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;Esaias&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;Colossians&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; 2: 8,9&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.[9] For in him &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;dwelleth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 43: 10&lt;/strong&gt; (especially the last part you said,)&lt;br /&gt;Says, “[10] Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;Compared to:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 9: 6&lt;/strong&gt; which says,&lt;br /&gt;[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;Counseller&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 1: 1&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Deuteronomy 10: 17&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;[17] For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_10"&gt;regardeth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; not persons, nor &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_11"&gt;taketh&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; reward:”&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Revelation 17: 14&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;[14] These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.&lt;br /&gt;--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;The Big Question Here Is – Does The Bible Contradict Itself?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;There are only two possible answers. Yes or No.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 5: 37&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;“Just let your word Yes, mean Yes, your No, No, for what is in excess of these is from the wicked one.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;HERE WE GO&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;ISAIAH 6: 1 AND JOHN 12: 41&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I’m guessing that the point &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_12"&gt;YOUTUBE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; USER&lt;/strong&gt; is trying to make about &lt;strong&gt;ISAIAH 6: 1&lt;/strong&gt; is - yes, indeed - man has seen God with his own eyes, and lived to talk about it on top of that. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The second point I'm guessing that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_13"&gt;YOUTUBE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; USER&lt;/strong&gt; is trying to make in regard to &lt;strong&gt;JOHN 12: 41 is that Isaiah is speaking of God.&lt;/strong&gt; Since I'm guessing&lt;strong&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_14"&gt;YOUTUBE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; USER&lt;/strong&gt; believes Jesus is literally God, then my assumption is probably correct. However we will soon see if Isaiah is speaking of Jehovah God, or a separate, mighty servant of God, Jesus the Son of God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU ACCUSE GOD OF – THAT IS, OF BEING A LIAR.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;at&lt;strong&gt; Exodus 33:20&lt;/strong&gt; God said to Moses: “You cannot see My face; for no man can see Me and live.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;On the other hand,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Genesis 32:30&lt;/strong&gt; records Jacob as saying: “For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now, in the above verses&lt;/strong&gt; (Exodus 33: 20 &amp;amp; Genesis 32: 30) it appears as if Jacob is proving &lt;strong&gt;God’s own words&lt;/strong&gt; to Moses at Exodus 33: 20 – &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;to be a lie.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_15"&gt;YIKERS&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;! That is a very serious situation if true.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Titus 1: 2&lt;/strong&gt; says that &lt;strong&gt;GOD CANNOT LIE&lt;/strong&gt; - “In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;SO WHAT GIVES?????&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Let’s consider the situations in the Bible where individuals referred to &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;seeing God&lt;/span&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In Jacob’s case at &lt;strong&gt;Genesis 32: 30&lt;/strong&gt; it says (&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_16"&gt;KJV&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;) “And Jacob called the name of the place &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_17"&gt;Peniel&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just a little before Jacob says this, he experiences the following with the same being of which he is never told the name, but he refers to this individual as “&lt;strong&gt;a man&lt;/strong&gt;”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Genesis 32: 24,25&lt;/strong&gt;, says,&lt;br /&gt;[24] And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled &lt;strong&gt;a man&lt;/strong&gt; with him until the breaking of the day. [25] And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Then in verse 29&lt;/strong&gt; we are told that Jacob never did get the name of &lt;strong&gt;the man&lt;/strong&gt; he wrestled with – “And &lt;strong&gt;Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name?&lt;/strong&gt; And he blessed him there.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Remember this part about the name not being given to him as you read further below.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The fact that Jacob did not get the name or the actual identity of this “&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;man&lt;/span&gt;” he wrestled with revealed to him&lt;/strong&gt; - is reason to conclude that Jacob wrestled with “&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;The Angel Of The LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;” or “&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;an Angel of The Lord&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;” that is mentioned &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;SEVENTY FOUR times&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; in the Bible. This &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Angel of the LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; often appeared to God’s people to represent God, and therefore God also spoke through such an angel.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;For a perfect example of this - read Judges 6: 11 – 16&lt;/strong&gt;, where it clearly states that the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;angel of the LORD appears to &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_18"&gt;Joash&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, and then later in verse 16 it says, “&lt;strong&gt;And the&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;LORD said unto him&lt;/strong&gt;”, - - - - - &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_19"&gt;Joash&lt;/span&gt; was talking to God, but through the &lt;strong&gt;presence or representation of God provided by &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;the Angel of the LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, , , , , therefore it can be said that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;Joash&lt;/span&gt; was looking at, and speaking with God indirectly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Other times individuals spoke of seeing God, when what they really saw was &lt;strong&gt;a representation of God&lt;/strong&gt; but not God himself are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Exodus 3: 2&lt;/strong&gt; – Moses is mentioned as “&lt;strong&gt;seeing&lt;/strong&gt;” God in a burning bush, however again it is worded as such,&lt;br /&gt;“[2] And &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;the angel of the LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Did Moses See God?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Answer No.&lt;/strong&gt; He saw an image that he, as a human could comprehend, or understand. The bush was &lt;strong&gt;a representation of God&lt;/strong&gt;—an occasion where something took God’s place.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The same applies to Job when God appeared to him in a whirlwind at Job 38: 1&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What about in Judges 13: 22&lt;/strong&gt;, which says,&lt;br /&gt;“And &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_20"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;Manoah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Did &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_21"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;Manoah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; and his wife see God?&lt;br /&gt;NO.&lt;/strong&gt; Verse 18 in the same book answers this question when &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_22"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;Manoah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;strong&gt;asked for the name of who was speaking to him. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Judges 13: 18&lt;/strong&gt; says this happened when &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_23"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;Manoah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; asked the name of the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Angel of the Lord&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, “And &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;the angel of the LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; said unto him, &lt;strong&gt;Why &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_24"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;askest&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret?”&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;Compare to Genesis 32: 29 - Where Jacob never did get the name of the man he wrestled with.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Well, the question now is , , , , , DOES GOD’S OWN WORD (THE BIBLE) LIE?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;SINCE GOD CANNOT LIE&lt;/strong&gt; (Titus 1: 2), and &lt;strong&gt;God himself said&lt;/strong&gt; that no man can see his face and live (Exodus 33:20), we must let our Yes, mean Yes, and agree that we believe God when he says something. &lt;strong&gt;Otherwise we are calling God a liar ourselves.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;THAT’S A BIG NO NO.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;It is now safe to conclude&lt;/strong&gt;, , , that we’&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_25"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26"&gt;ve&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; established that each time a human is said to have seen God in the Bible, what they really have seen, is a &lt;strong&gt;representation, or representative of God&lt;/strong&gt;, not the literal face of God, &lt;strong&gt;or in God’s own words, they would die.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just as the “&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;angel of the LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;” represented God and was the voice through which God spoke to people –&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;JESUS WAS/IS ALSO A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF HIS FATHER JEHOVAH GOD.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How do I know?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Bible says so&lt;/strong&gt; at &lt;strong&gt;John 1: 18&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;“&lt;strong&gt;No man hath seen God at any time&lt;/strong&gt;; the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;only begotten Son&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, which is in the bosom of the Father, &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;he hath declared him&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;.”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;WHO DECLARED GOD?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;JESUS - HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON DID, THAT’S WHO.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now Back To The Verses &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_26"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_27"&gt;YOUTUBE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; USER&lt;/strong&gt; told us (Jehovah's witnesses) to look up.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 6: 1&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;“In the year that king &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_27"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_28"&gt;Uzziah&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In light of what was just discussed&lt;/strong&gt;, and &lt;strong&gt;in light of God’s own words&lt;/strong&gt;, that &lt;strong&gt;no man can see him and live&lt;/strong&gt;, we must conclude that:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1.&lt;/strong&gt; That God is not a liar, and &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2.&lt;/strong&gt; That what was being seen here in a vision was a &lt;strong&gt;representation of God&lt;/strong&gt; on a throne.}&lt;br /&gt;---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;NOW LET'S MOVE ON:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 12: 41&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;These things said &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_28"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_29"&gt;Esaias&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;when he saw his glory, and spake of him.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Remember &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_29"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_30"&gt;YOUTUBE&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; USER&lt;/strong&gt;, you said that you wanted us (Jehovah's witnesses) to read &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;all in context.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So Be It.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;QUESTIONS TO CONSIDER&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1. Who was Isaiah speaking of after seeing his glory?&lt;br /&gt;2. Was Isaiah speaking of God himself, or of another Servant of God?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;If you read the full chapter &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;IN CONTEXT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, you will read that Jesus was sitting with others at a feast that was thrown after Lazarus was raised from the dead. Certain people were asking to see Jesus because of what they had heard about him and Lazarus, and other miracles. &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Philip, and Andrew tell Jesus that certain people were looking for him.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Jesus assures them that he is soon to be glorified. In other words, don’t worry - they’ll know who I am in just a moment.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 12: 23&lt;/strong&gt; says, “And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Jesus went on to say,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 12: 27 - 30&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;[27] Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.[28] &lt;strong&gt;Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again&lt;/strong&gt;. [29] The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him. [30] Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;After this happened, people nearby either heard it and new it was a message from above &lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;(thus &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_31"&gt;recieving&lt;/span&gt; confirmation from Jehovah that Jesus was the promised Messiah), &lt;/span&gt;or they did not hear it, and wrote it off as thunder. Not only was Jehovah God’s name being glorified at that very moment in verse 28, but also, Jesus was being identified to those who heard - as the “Christ” the promised Messiah.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Because of this - some questioned Jesus as follows,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 12: 34&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;[34] The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that &lt;strong&gt;Christ &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_30"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_32"&gt;abideth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; for ever&lt;/strong&gt; (&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;see Prov. 8: 22 - 31&lt;/span&gt;) and how &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_31"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_33"&gt;sayest&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;The people are asking WHO IS THIS SON OF MAN?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The answer to this question lies in the following verse:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 12: 38&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;“That the saying of &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_32"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_34"&gt;Esaias&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;THE ARM OF THE LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; been revealed?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The Son Of Man&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;(Jesus)&lt;/span&gt; &lt;strong&gt;is not God himself&lt;/strong&gt;, but the prophesied &lt;strong&gt;ultimate representation of God&lt;/strong&gt; in this case referred to as &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;THE ARM OF THE LORD - (LORD meaning Jehovah).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Compare John 12: 38 to:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 53: 1 – 12&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;speaks of Jesus (&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;JEHOVAH’S ARM&lt;/span&gt;) in the following verses.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;[1] Who hath believed our report? and to whom is &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;the arm of the LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; revealed? [2] For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him. [3] He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not. [4] Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. [5] &lt;strong&gt;But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities:&lt;/strong&gt; the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and &lt;strong&gt;with his stripes we are healed&lt;/strong&gt;. [6] All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and &lt;strong&gt;the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all&lt;/strong&gt;. [7] He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: &lt;strong&gt;he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_33"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_35"&gt;openeth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; not his mouth&lt;/strong&gt;. [8] He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken. [9] And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth. [10] &lt;strong&gt;Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him&lt;/strong&gt;; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand. [11] He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. [12] Therefore will &lt;strong&gt;I divide him a portion with the great&lt;/strong&gt;, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; &lt;strong&gt;because he hath poured out his soul unto death&lt;/strong&gt;: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and &lt;strong&gt;he bare the sin of many&lt;/strong&gt;, and made intercession for the transgressors.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;CONCLUSION IN REGARD TO&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Isaiah 6: 1 compared to John 12: 41&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;There is no comparison. &lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 6: 1&lt;/strong&gt; is speaking of what has been seen in a vision as a representation of God (Jehovah) on his throne, not Jesus.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 12: 41&lt;/strong&gt; - speaks of Isaiah seeing his glory, &lt;strong&gt;who’s glory did he see?&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;He saw the ARM OF GOD, &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;also known to us as Jesus, the promised Messiah, the Son of man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 51: 9&lt;/strong&gt; speaks of &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;THE ARM OF THE LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; as the one who cut &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_34"&gt;Rahab&lt;/span&gt;, and wounded the dragon.&lt;br /&gt;“[9] Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_35"&gt;Rahab&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, and wounded the &lt;strong&gt;dragon&lt;/strong&gt;?”&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Note:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_36"&gt;Rahab&lt;/span&gt; is also the name of a &lt;strong&gt;sea-demon&lt;/strong&gt; and, connected with this, a poetical or symbolic name applied to Egypt in Psalm 87:4, Psalm 89:10 and Isaiah 51:9, signifying "the proud one." - - thus further drawing the conclusion that in these cases, &lt;strong&gt;JESUS&lt;/strong&gt;, or &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;the &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;ARM OF JEHOVAH&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, was being spoken of in prophetic poem.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 52: 10&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;The &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;LORD hath made bare his holy arm&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of our God.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;THE ARM OF THE LORD&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (aka Jesus) IS GOD’S HOLY SERVANT&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 52: 13 – 15&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;13: &lt;strong&gt;Behold, my servant shall deal prudently&lt;/strong&gt;, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14: As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15: &lt;strong&gt;So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him&lt;/strong&gt;: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;YOUTUBE USER ASKED US “JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES” TO CONSIDER&lt;br /&gt;COLOSSIANS 2: 8, 9 &amp;amp; ISAIAH 43: 10&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Colossians 2: 8,9 says,&lt;br /&gt;[8] Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. [9] For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;What is this fullness?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;JESUS &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;FULLY&lt;/span&gt; MIRRORS OR REPRESENTS Jehovah God his Father.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Colossians 1: 15&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Who is the image of the invisible God&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, the firstborn of every creature:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;The fullness of Authority&lt;/span&gt; in the order of the Godhead, of which &lt;strong&gt;nothing is above him except Jehovah his Father.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Corinthians 11: 3 confirms,&lt;/strong&gt; But I would have you know, that &lt;strong&gt;the head of every man is Christ;&lt;/strong&gt; and the head of the woman is the man; and &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;the head of Christ is God.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Colossians 1: 18, 19&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;18. &lt;strong&gt;And he is the head of the body, the church&lt;/strong&gt;: who is the beginning, &lt;strong&gt;the firstborn from the dead&lt;/strong&gt;; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 19. &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullness dwell;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;YOUTUBE USER&lt;/strong&gt; asked Jehovah's witnesses to consider &lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;Isaiah 43: 10 (especially the last part) which says, “[10] Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;and my servant whom I have chosen&lt;/span&gt;: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: &lt;strong&gt;before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#ff0000;"&gt;In consideration of the overall "Big Picture" as seen in the entire Bible, Isaiah 43: 10 must be referring to the term GOD in the ultimate sense.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;JEHOVAH IS THE GOD OF gods! Deuteronomy 10: 17&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;HOW CAN JEHOVAH BE THE GOD OF gods, IF THERE ARE NO OTHER gods TO BE THE GOD OF?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#ff0000;"&gt;SIMPLE EXPLANATION:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;REMEMBER GOD SPEAKING TO PEOPLE IN THE PAST THROUGH PROPHETS, AND ANGELS WHO REPRESENTED HIM, AS HIS SERVANTS?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;color:#ff0000;"&gt;GOD USES JESUS IN THE SAME WAY – (AS HIS ARM, HIS MESSENGER), his right hand man.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Hebrews 1: 1 – 4 explains this and so much more.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,&lt;br /&gt;2 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;3 &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Who being the brightness of his glory&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;and the express image of his person&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;4 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Being made so much better than the angels&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So, Jesus is not God himself, but as the perfect representative of his Father God&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;(Jehovah),&lt;/strong&gt; Jesus is powerful, mighty, and god-like in every sense of the word, or &lt;strong&gt;Word&lt;/strong&gt;, as Jesus is referred the Word which further explains how Jesus is a complete, and full representative of Jehovah God in all things.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Even Satan is god-like, and is called a god - 2nd. Cor. 4: 4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; (Satan possesses god-like supernatural powers) &lt;strong&gt;Does this mean that Satan is not a god?&lt;/strong&gt; He certainly posseses his own powers as his evil deeds to not come from God, , , , , therefore Satan is a god in the sense that he possesses supernatural powers of which he can use in practicing his own free will. The story of Job proves this point (Job 2: and so on)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;2nd. Cor. 4: 4&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;In whom the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;god of this world&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the &lt;strong&gt;glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God&lt;/strong&gt;, should shine unto them.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Satan however, is not immortal as he will be destroyed someday (Rev. 20: 10)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jesus however was granted immortality&lt;/strong&gt; and exhaulted by his Father Jehovah, after Jesus fullfulled his role as the Messiah, and was resurrected back up to heaven.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Hebrews 1: 4 says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;4 Being made so much better than the angels&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, as &lt;strong&gt;he hath by inheritance obtained&lt;/strong&gt; a more excellent name than they.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Philippians 2: 9&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Wherefore &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;God also hath highly exalted him&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, and given him a name which is above every name:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Timothy 6: 16&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Who only hath immortality&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Romans 6: 9&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Christ, now that he has been raised up from the dead, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;dies no more; death is master over him no more&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Indeed, contrasting the resurrected Jesus with earthly rulers, &lt;strong&gt;Paul describes him as the only one among them having immortality&lt;/strong&gt;. Jesus will remain “alive forever.” His life is “indestructible.”— Hebrews 7:15-17, 23-25; 1 Timothy 6:15, 16.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;NOW IN REGARD TO THE REMAINING VERSES YOUTUBE USER ASKED JEHOVHA'S WITNESSES TO LOOK UP:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Isaiah 9: 6&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;John 1: 1 &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Deuteronomy 10: 17&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Revelation 17: 14&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;It is safe to say that &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;much of what has been typed above answers the challenge that has been posed with these above verses&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; - that is whether or not Jesus is God, and God is Jesus.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;However in brief if I may:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 9: 6&lt;/strong&gt; would suggest that since this is talking about Jesus, it equals that Jesus is God, when the verse is compared to:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Deuteronomy 10: 17&lt;/strong&gt; which says,[17] For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;(note: includes explanation of Revelation 17: 14 as well)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Deuteronomy 10: 17&lt;/strong&gt; is indeed &lt;strong&gt;talking about Jehovah God&lt;/strong&gt;, and includes the words "&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;God of gods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;". &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In contrast,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 9: 6&lt;/strong&gt; - &lt;strong&gt;DOES NOT&lt;/strong&gt; include the words "&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;God of gods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;".&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;In fact, the words "&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;God of gods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;" &lt;strong&gt;CANNOT BE FOUND&lt;/strong&gt; anywhere in the New Testament or (Greek scriptures).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Revelation 17: 14&lt;/strong&gt; - is Talking about Jesus (the Son of God), but &lt;strong&gt;DOES NOT&lt;/strong&gt; include the words "&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;God of gods&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;" in it.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Nor are the words "&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;God of gods&lt;/span&gt;" found in the following verses pertaining to Jesus in the New testament:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Tim. 6: 15&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rev. 19: 16&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;Since we've established that Jesus is the &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ARM OF THE LORD&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; (the right hand man of God), as &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;the separate, but perfect representative&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;of his Father&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;, and has all things put under him, , , , the following should be considered, &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Corinthians 15: 28&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;And when all things shall be subdued unto him&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, that God may be all in all.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now in regard to John 1: 1&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;color:#3333ff;"&gt;[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;Please compare to Proverbs 8: 22 - 31 in it's entirety.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;In the beginning was the Word&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;Compare to:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Proverbs 8: 22 which says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;The &lt;strong&gt;LORD&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;possessed me(meaning Jesus)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;in the beginning of his way, before his works of old&lt;/strong&gt;."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;and the Word was with God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;Compare to:&lt;/span&gt; Proverbs 8: 27, and 30&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;(27) &lt;strong&gt;When he prepared the heavens, &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;I was there&lt;/span&gt;:&lt;/strong&gt; when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial;"&gt;(30) &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Then I was by him&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;as one brought up with him&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;: and I was daily his delight, rejoicing always before him;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;NOW COMPARE PROVERBS 8: 22, and 24 with (&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;begotten&lt;/span&gt;) mentioned at John 3: 16, and at John 1: 14.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:100%;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;begotten means:&lt;/span&gt; To cause to exist or occur; produce:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; &lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Prov. 8: 22 &lt;strong&gt;The LORD &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;possessed &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;me(Jesus)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;in the beginning of his way&lt;/strong&gt;, before his works of old.&lt;br /&gt;24 When there were no depths, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;I was &lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;brought forth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;; when there were no fountains abounding with water.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jesus was truly the Word, but was the word literally God?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;According to all Biblical evidence, no&lt;/strong&gt;, but the Word (or God's Son Jesus), is &lt;strong&gt;the perfect personification of his Father Jehovah&lt;/strong&gt;, so much so, that he abides in an unapproachable light that only he can share with his Father Jehovah God, therefore, to us human beings he is truly &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;the image of the invisible God&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;(Colossians 1: 15) &lt;strong&gt;"Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:"&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Timothy 6: 13: 16 says,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;13 I give thee charge &lt;strong&gt;in the sight of God&lt;/strong&gt;, who quickeneth all things, &lt;strong&gt;and before Christ Jesus&lt;/strong&gt;, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;&lt;br /&gt;14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:&lt;br /&gt;15 Which in his times he shall shew, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;who is the blessed and only Potentate&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;&lt;br /&gt;16 Who only hath immortality, &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;; &lt;strong&gt;whom no man hath seen, nor can see&lt;/strong&gt;: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:130%;color:#ff0000;"&gt;In Closing, We Must Answer The Question Once And For All - DOES THE BIBLE CONTRADICT ITSELF?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Most claiming to be Christian will quickly answer “NO” without flinching.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;In contrast however many of these same people, with their own misunderstanding of the “&lt;strong&gt;Big Picture&lt;/strong&gt;”, combined with the false teachings they’ve adopted - say otherwise without realizing it in most cases.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The false doctrines many proclaimed Christians accept&lt;/strong&gt;, not only make the Bible appear to be a &lt;strong&gt;big book of contradictions and lies&lt;/strong&gt;, but also give off the appearance that &lt;strong&gt;God is not only fickle&lt;/strong&gt;, &lt;strong&gt;but also&lt;/strong&gt; as the Devil claims, a big &lt;strong&gt;liar.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Nothing has helped the Devil in his quest to convince mankind that God is a liar&lt;/strong&gt; - more than the false teachings, and doctrines of man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In the Bible Jehovah God makes this plea to man at Proverbs 27: 11&lt;/strong&gt; “Be wise, my son, and make my heart rejoice, that I may make a reply to him(Satan) that is taunting me.”&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5872853369987620995-2262341156751942471?l=armedwithtruth.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/2262341156751942471'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/2262341156751942471'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2008/01/of-whose-glory-did-isaiah-prophesy.html' title='OF WHOSE GLORY DID ISAIAH PROPHESY?'/><author><name>ArmedWithTruth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16001747653702207681</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5872853369987620995.post-127844538505712517</id><published>2007-12-27T21:30:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2008-01-01T02:31:16.667-08:00</updated><title type='text'>WHAT IS SIN?</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;WHAT IS SIN?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In order to understand sin, we must first understand the origin of sin.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Quite simply, sin is everything in opposition to (or a deviation) from established balance, or original, intended balance.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What is balance?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There are many definitions for the word balance, but for the purpose of making my point I'll use just a few.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The dictionary says&lt;/strong&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;balance - To arrange, adjust, or proportion the parts of &lt;strong&gt;symmetrically&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;balance - To bring into or &lt;strong&gt;maintain in a state of equilibrium. &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;balance - To bring into or keep in &lt;strong&gt;equal&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;satisfying proportion&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt;harmony&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;My own personal definition?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;balance - All components working together harmoniously for the sake of maintenance, and survival.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Once again, &lt;strong&gt;SIN&lt;/strong&gt; would be anything that works against that balance that is necessary for survival.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Imagine if you will that:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1. &lt;/strong&gt;You have just been given the world's best computer system, fully equipped with everything you could possibly need and want, fully setup, and running. Every component/part of that computer system works together perfectly, smoothly and harmoniously.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2.&lt;/strong&gt; The actual computer designer gives you a list of things that you can do, but more importantly a list of things you &lt;strong&gt;SHOULD&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;NOT DO&lt;/strong&gt; in order the assure the longevity and ultimately the life of this computer. Everything on the list of &lt;strong&gt;DO NOT &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_0"&gt;DO'S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; given to you are for the purpose of avoiding getting your perfect computer infected with the most dangerous computer virus known to man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3.&lt;/strong&gt; As time goes by, you learn about the many wonderful and beneficial things your computer system can do for you, and help you do. Also, as time &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;goes&lt;/span&gt; by, you become more careless as to what you do with your computer in regard to the list of &lt;strong&gt;DO NOT &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_1"&gt;DO'S&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; that was given to you.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. &lt;/strong&gt;Eventually you begin to ignore the list of things you were told &lt;strong&gt;NOT TO DO&lt;/strong&gt; with your computer, and before you know it, and when it's too late to go back, you pick up the single&lt;strong&gt; most deadly computer virus possible&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Your &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;negligence&lt;/span&gt; has just thrown a wrench so to speak into the BALANCED workings of your computer, thus causing its' demise.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5.&lt;/strong&gt; This virus is the most difficult virus to detect because of the way it works. It slowly attacks your computer in ways that you cannot detect, and does so over a long period of time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6.&lt;/strong&gt; In the meantime, you send email messages to &lt;strong&gt;all of your relatives&lt;/strong&gt;, thus spreading this virus to each and every one of their computers.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7.&lt;/strong&gt; Eventually the computer virus has finished it's slow breakdown of your computer system, and all of your relatives' computers as well.  Finally it reaches the point of complete takeover of which at that point, your computer and their computers die suddenly.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;8.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;The only salvation?&lt;/strong&gt; Each one must do away with the old computer and buy a new one with the intention of not repeating the steps that destroyed the first.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now, let's look at the above scenario and compare it as closely as possible to the Bible, and Jehovah God's plan for the earth, mankind and all creation.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1.&lt;/strong&gt; The book of Genesis tells of how Jehovah God (through Jesus Prov. 8: 22-31) created the heavens and the earth. Everything was created to work in harmony, and beautifully.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2.&lt;/strong&gt; God therefore created the first man (Adam) to take care of the earth (Gen. 2: 5-7 &amp;amp; Gen. 2: 15). In a sense, God was &lt;strong&gt;giving&lt;/strong&gt; man the earth to care for and enjoy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;3.&lt;/strong&gt; Jehovah God then told Adam directly (not Eve) - &lt;strong&gt;DO NOT&lt;/strong&gt; eat the fruit from the tree of good and bad (Gen. 2: 17). &lt;strong&gt;Just like in the computer scenario&lt;/strong&gt;, if the warning was not respected and heeded, there would be serious consequence. &lt;strong&gt;For the computer it was a virus&lt;/strong&gt; that slowly killed the computer, but for Adam (and Eve) not taking this warning very seriously - would lead to &lt;strong&gt;the curse of death that would slowly drain man's youth, health, and eventually life over a period of time.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Note: Had Adam obeyed God, he and all his offspring were to live forever with perfect health on a beautiful earth - (Gen. 1: 28, Isaiah 45: 18, &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_2"&gt;Ecc&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. 1: 4)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;4. Just like the owner of the computer&lt;/strong&gt;, Adam (and Eve) &lt;strong&gt;did not heed the warning&lt;/strong&gt; of what &lt;strong&gt;NOT TO DO&lt;/strong&gt;, (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;thus this negligence has thrown a spiritual wrench into the BALANCED workings and plan put in place by God, thus causing man's demise&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;), , , , , and therefore Adam and all of his descendants have contracted a horrible curse/virus &lt;strong&gt;called death&lt;/strong&gt; that slowly shuts man's life down through time, to the point of death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;5. Like the computer owner&lt;/strong&gt; - Adam passes this &lt;strong&gt;death&lt;/strong&gt;/virus on to all of his family (all mankind) or in other words his descendants - you, me, everyone. That is why we all lose our youth, experience illnesses, and eventually die. (Romans 5: 14, 1st. Corinthians 15: 22)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;6. The only salvation? &lt;/strong&gt;Well, in contrast to the computer owner(s) who could simply buy a new computer , , , , , we &lt;strong&gt;can't&lt;/strong&gt; simply buy a new body and life, however we can have future hope in everlasting life &lt;strong&gt;through a new or &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;"last Adam" (aka Jesus)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; sent by Jehovah to serve as a replacement for the failure - first man Adam, the father of all as we are his descendants.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;1st. Corinthians 15: 22, and 45 says,&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;[22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.&lt;br /&gt;[45] And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;(a)&lt;/strong&gt; We can also make the necessary changes (&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;away from sin, and sinful acts&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;) in our daily life as instructed in God's word the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;Luke 15: 7 says, "I tell you that thus there will be more &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;JOY&lt;/span&gt; in heaven &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;over one sinner that repents&lt;/span&gt; than over ninety-nine righteous ones who have no need of repentance."&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;7.&lt;/strong&gt; Well if you were purchasing a new computer to replace the first one that died, you would definitely read the &lt;strong&gt;owner's manual&lt;/strong&gt; for the new computer much more thoroughly to make sure you new what do to, and once again, what not to do. Not only would you establish a more &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;accurate knowledge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; of the computer system, you would make every effort possible this time to &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;adhere to the instructions closely.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#330000;"&gt;THE BIBLE (the &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;owner's manual&lt;/span&gt; to life for us) tells us to do the very same thing:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Timothy 2: 3, 4 says,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;"This is fine and acceptable in the sight of our Savior, God, whose will is that all sorts of men should be saved and come to an &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;accurate knowledge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; of truth.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Isaiah 48: 17, 18 says,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;"This is what Jehovah has said, you Re-purchaser, the Holy One of Israel. I, Jehovah, am your God, the One &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;teaching you to benefit (yourself),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; the One causing you to tread in the way in which you should walk. 18 &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;O if only you would actually pay attention to my commandments!&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Then your peace would become just like a river and your righteousness like the waves of the sea.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;8.&lt;/strong&gt; God's word the Bible is our &lt;strong&gt;owner's&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;manual&lt;/strong&gt; to life, but not just on how to live in this death cursed world all experience, but &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;ultimately&lt;/span&gt; on how to &lt;strong&gt;someday&lt;/strong&gt; - once again gain the (&lt;strong&gt;balanced&lt;/strong&gt;) everlasting life that God purposed for mankind that Adam and Eve could have enjoyed.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;In the Bible&lt;/strong&gt;, there are lists of things to do, and things that we are &lt;strong&gt;not to do&lt;/strong&gt;, some that have been done away with, and some that have never changed. Better yet, in the Bible, are contained examples or documented stories of individuals and groups who &lt;strong&gt;did not adhere to the instructions&lt;/strong&gt;, and the consequences that they had to deal with as a result. The bible also contains examples or stories of those who did do the things that they should do, and records the blessings or benefits they enjoyed as well.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;2&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_3"&gt;nd&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;. Timothy 3: 16&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;9.&lt;/strong&gt; Although death is currently still an inescapable part of human life, God put a plan in place (as a promise) soon after Adam's original sin. This plan and promise was that he (Jehovah God) would setup a "&lt;strong&gt;seed&lt;/strong&gt;" or (Jesus, the Messiah) that would &lt;strong&gt;undo the curse of death&lt;/strong&gt; brought upon all mankind (Adam's &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;descendants&lt;/span&gt; or &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;offspring&lt;/span&gt;) someday.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;10. How would this "seed" or Jesus undo the curse of death?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;(a)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; The bible says that first he (Jesus) had to learn &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_7"&gt;obedience&lt;/span&gt; in human form (Hebrews 5: 7,8,9) "Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared; [8] Though he were a Son, yet &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;learned he obedience&lt;/span&gt; by the things which he suffered&lt;/strong&gt;; [9] &lt;strong&gt;And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him&lt;/strong&gt;; - Like Jesus we must learn obedience in order to have the hope of resurrection, and someday benefit from eternal life.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;(b)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; The bible says that he (Jesus) had to die (and be resurrected by his Father Jehovah), in order to &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;conquer death first himself&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;. Then, and only then, was he given authority to become the future resurrection of man.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 3: 16 says&lt;/strong&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed (or perish in some translations) but have everlasting life."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;John 5: 25 - 28&lt;/strong&gt; says,&lt;br /&gt;[25] Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live. [26] For as the Father hath life in himself; &lt;strong&gt;so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself&lt;/strong&gt;; [27] &lt;strong&gt;And hath given him authority to execute judgment&lt;/strong&gt; also, because he is the Son of man. [28] Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which &lt;strong&gt;all that are in the graves shall hear his voice&lt;/strong&gt;,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;11: This Messiah, Jesus Christ&lt;/strong&gt; - also referred to as the "&lt;strong&gt;seed&lt;/strong&gt;", the "&lt;strong&gt;root of Jesse&lt;/strong&gt;", the "only begotten Son" of God is referred to in the following verses in the Bible. Gen. 3: 14,15 - Isa. 11: 10 - Romans 15: 12 - John 3: 16, etc.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The original promise after Adam's sin - Gen. 3: 14, and 15,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[14] And the LORD God said unto the &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;serpent(Satan),&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life: [15] And I will put enmity between &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;thee(Satan)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and the &lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;woman(true worshippers of God)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;span style="color:#000000;"&gt;, &lt;/span&gt;and between &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;thy&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;seed(evil man/false religion)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;her seed(Jesus);&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The last phrase in the above verse means:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;it&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;meaning the seed or Jesus&lt;/span&gt;) &lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;shall bruise thy head&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;will kill Satan once and for all someday&lt;/span&gt;),&lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;and thou&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Satan&lt;/span&gt;) &lt;span style="color:#3333ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;shalt bruise his&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;(&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;Jesus&lt;/span&gt;) &lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;heel&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt; (&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;bruise his heel refers to the &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-corrected" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;Crucifixion&lt;/span&gt; of Jesus, which was not a final blow due to his resurrection&lt;/span&gt;).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;span style="color:#3366ff;"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;See also references to Jesus as the "seed" "Messiah", and "root of Jesse" at: Gen. 17: 7, - Isaiah 11: 10, - Daniel 9: 25, 26&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;So what must we do to make sure that we will benefit from the resurrection and eternal life someday?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;(a)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;We must believe&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;that is believe in Jesus (John 3: 16), who he was, is, and more importantly we must believe Jesus words as recorded in our manual to life (the Bible).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;(b)&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;We must take in knowledge&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The bible says the following: &lt;strong&gt;John 17: 3&lt;/strong&gt; - "&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;This means everlasting life&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;, their taking in knowledge of &lt;strong&gt;you, the only true God&lt;/strong&gt;, and of the one whom you sent forth, &lt;strong&gt;Jesus Christ&lt;/strong&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;(c) We must remain obedient&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 7: 21&lt;/strong&gt; - says, "[21] Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;but he that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_8"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_4"&gt;doeth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; the will of my Father&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt; which is in heaven."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;(d) We must endure to the end&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 10: 22&lt;/strong&gt; - "[22] And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: &lt;strong&gt;&lt;span style="color:#ff0000;"&gt;but he that &lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_9"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_6"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;&lt;span class="blsp-spelling-error" id="SPELLING_ERROR_5"&gt;endureth&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt; to the end shall be saved&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;."&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5872853369987620995-127844538505712517?l=armedwithtruth.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/127844538505712517'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/127844538505712517'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2007/12/what-is-sin.html' title='WHAT IS SIN?'/><author><name>ArmedWithTruth</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16001747653702207681</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5872853369987620995.post-7479840378712927013</id><published>2007-12-26T22:40:00.000-08:00</published><updated>2007-12-28T21:07:04.001-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Re:  1st. Thes. 4:15-17</title><content type='html'>&lt;strong&gt;This is in response to an ex-Jehovah's Witnesses attempt to prove fallacy in wording used in the book published by the Watchtower Society of Jehovah's Witnesses called:"Revelation - Its Grand Climax At Hand.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ex Jehovah's Witness Wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The WT teaches the resurrection of the "anointed" started in 1918. The WT cult even pins down the very year that supposedly happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ArmedWithTruth Wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You're trying to evade the subject since you CAN'T show from the Bible that this isn't true. Prove it, or shut up ;-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Ex Jehovah's Witness Wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;LOL...the response of a defeated JW...let me show you from the Bible how it couldn't have happened in 1918. &lt;strong&gt;1Th 4:15-17 states&lt;/strong&gt; that "the dead in Christ" and "we the living", both groups, will be "caught away" "at the same time together" according to the original Greek in The Kingdom Interlinear See 1Th 4:17, Ref. Bi., footnote).Therefore, if the "dead in Christ" were resurrected in 1918, there would be no "we the living" still walking on earth today.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;ArmedWithTruth Wrote:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I thank Jehovah for providing the following answers to your attack on both him and his people.&lt;br /&gt;After some researching into this much deeper I see that you have carefully presented the wording out of context. Since web viewers in most cases do not have the book in question, it is easy to make something look bad when the viewer cannot read the text before and after your quote from the book.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Let's look at this in great depth.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Note:&lt;/strong&gt; I will use my King James translation.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;You quoted &lt;strong&gt;1st.&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Thessalonians 4:15-17&lt;/strong&gt; which says,&lt;br /&gt;[15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Now, let's compare the above verses to: &lt;strong&gt;1st. Corinthians 15: 21 - 25&lt;/strong&gt;, which says,&lt;br /&gt;[21] For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.&lt;br /&gt;[22] For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.&lt;br /&gt;[23] &lt;strong&gt;But every man in his own order:&lt;/strong&gt; Christ the firstfruits; &lt;strong&gt;afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[24] Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.&lt;br /&gt;[25] &lt;strong&gt;For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now Ex-Jehovah's Witness You Said,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;""the dead in Christ" and "we the living", both groups, will be "caught away" "at the same time together"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Well, just look at &lt;strong&gt;1st. Cor. 15: 22, and 23&lt;/strong&gt; above:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Verse 22&lt;/strong&gt; shows that all shall be made alive (or resurrected) by Christ, but notice what &lt;strong&gt;verse 23&lt;/strong&gt; says - &lt;strong&gt;But every man in his own order&lt;/strong&gt;. In other words not all will be resurrected in the same order, but according to how God purposes or plans.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Verse 23&lt;/strong&gt; also goes on to state what this order of resurrection will be: "&lt;strong&gt;Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now who are the firstfruits, and those who are Christ's mentioned in verse 23 above?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 24: 31 &lt;/strong&gt;tells us that these are the &lt;strong&gt;"elect"&lt;/strong&gt; aka chosen ones, aka 144 thousand who had already died and were sleeping (or waiting) in death, and those who will die during the time of Christ's ruling as King in heaven during the last days after Satan is cast down to the earth (see Rev. 12: 9)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 24: 31&lt;/strong&gt; - And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together &lt;strong&gt;his elect&lt;/strong&gt; from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.&lt;br /&gt;(see also elect mentioned (Matt. 24: 22, Romans 8: 28-33, Rev. 14: 1, 3)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now the question is what does it mean by his coming? Does this mean a literal coming to earth?, or coming to power as King in Heaven?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;1st. Cor. 15 Verse 25&lt;/strong&gt; says that he (Jesus) must reign, till he has put all enemies under his feet, which helps to establish that Jesus had to have come to rule as king in Heaven when he (Jesus) experienced his &lt;strong&gt;first&lt;/strong&gt; battle victory against Satan (aka the dragon) mentioned at:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Revelation 12: 7 - 10 which says,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[7] And there &lt;strong&gt;was war in heaven&lt;/strong&gt;: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,&lt;br /&gt;[8] And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.&lt;br /&gt;[9] And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.[10] &lt;strong&gt;And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now IS COME salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the POWER of his Christ&lt;/strong&gt;: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now, how do I know that this happened sometime after Jesus died on earth, and was resurrected and returned to Heaven?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just after the above mentioned verses if you look one more verse beyond that at &lt;strong&gt;Revelation 12: 11&lt;/strong&gt;, you will see that they (Jesus and his angels) overcame Satan, and his angels by Jesus sacraficial blood - "[11] &lt;strong&gt;And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb&lt;/strong&gt;, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 16: 19&lt;/strong&gt; tells us what Jesus did when he initially ascended into heaven after his resurrection.&lt;br /&gt;"So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, &lt;strong&gt;he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God&lt;/strong&gt;."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Why did Jesus sit at the right hand of his Father Jehovah at that point?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Mark 12: 36&lt;/strong&gt; talks of the prophecy vision by David which says tells us why Jesus sat at the right hand of his Father "For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The Lord said to my Lord, &lt;strong&gt;Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy footstool.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;When did Jesus' enemies become his footstool?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Answer:&lt;/strong&gt; After the war in heaven between Jesus and his angels, and Satan and his angels.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rev. 12: 9&lt;/strong&gt; - "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the &lt;strong&gt;Devil&lt;/strong&gt;, and &lt;strong&gt;Satan&lt;/strong&gt;, which deceiveth the whole world: &lt;strong&gt;he was cast out into the earth&lt;/strong&gt;, and his angels were cast out with him."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Rev. 12: 12&lt;/strong&gt; says - "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. &lt;strong&gt;Woe to the inhabiters of the earth&lt;/strong&gt; and of the sea! &lt;strong&gt;for the devil is come down unto you&lt;/strong&gt;, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Matthew 14: 61, and 62 while on earth, Jesus says, "[61] But he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?[62] And Jesus said, I am: &lt;strong&gt;and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;The verses above clearly point out that in the case of&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;1st. Thes. 4: 16&lt;/strong&gt; when the word "coming" is used it refers to - a coming to power. In this case heavenly power as King. "&lt;strong&gt;For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel&lt;/strong&gt;, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:"&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 24: 30, 31 says,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[30] &lt;strong&gt;And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven&lt;/strong&gt;: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.&lt;br /&gt;[31] &lt;strong&gt;And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect&lt;/strong&gt; from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;A bit further down in Matthew 24 you will see that Jesus himself compares his "coming" or COMING TO POWER to the days of Noah and his ark.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;HOW SO?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matt. 24: verse 35 says, "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." &lt;/strong&gt;Well since &lt;strong&gt;Ecclesiastes 1: 4&lt;/strong&gt; says "One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but &lt;strong&gt;the earth abideth for ever&lt;/strong&gt;. We can conclude that the ball in space called earth will not pass away, perish, or be destroyed, therefore as in Noah's day, when the flood finally came, the destruction or passing away pertained not to the earth, but to its inhabitants that did not accept Jehovah's righteous law, nor turn away from their bad ways after ample time and warning had been given.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matt. 24: 36 says,&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;strong&gt;"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Just like in the days of Noah before the flood came, Noah new the flood would come because he was told by God himself, however, God did not tell him exactly when the &lt;strong&gt;flood or end&lt;/strong&gt; of all unrighteousness would come during those days. Noah simply finished his tasks and waited.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;How do we know from the bible when the "end" in our time is near?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;If we can't know the day or hour how can we be prepared?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jesus tells us when we will know that he has come to power in heaven thus ruling with his enemies as his footstool at:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 24: 3 - 14,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[3] And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and &lt;strong&gt;what shall be the sign of thy coming&lt;/strong&gt;, and of &lt;strong&gt;the end of the world?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[4] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.&lt;br /&gt;[5] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.&lt;br /&gt;[6] And ye shall hear of &lt;strong&gt;wars and rumours of wars&lt;/strong&gt;: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, &lt;strong&gt;but the end is not yet&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;[7] For &lt;strong&gt;nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[8] All these are the beginning of sorrows.&lt;br /&gt;[9] Then shall &lt;strong&gt;they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;[10] And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.[11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.&lt;br /&gt;[12] And because iniquity shall abound, the &lt;strong&gt;love of many shall wax cold&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;[13] &lt;strong&gt;But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved&lt;/strong&gt;.&lt;br /&gt;[14] &lt;strong&gt;And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and THEN SHALL THE END COME.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Matthew 24: 38, and 39 says,&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, [39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Notice that the people were carrying on with everyday life, as if there was nothing to concern themselves with beyond their own selfish desires?&lt;/strong&gt; Well, there's certainly nothing wrong with eating, drinking, and getting married. What people failed to do however was heed the warning that had been given to them to turn away from the things in their lives that were displeasing to God. Today people take the same approach with the same attitude.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Conclusion based on scriptural proof?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The days of Christ's coming in Kingdom power while his enemies are (on earth) as his footstool are also referred to as the "last days" in scripture.&lt;br /&gt;See: 2nd. Timothy 3: 1 - 7&lt;br /&gt;See: Hebrews 1: 2&lt;br /&gt;See: 2nd. Peter 3: 3 - 6&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The end of the "&lt;strong&gt;last days&lt;/strong&gt;" is not to be confused with the &lt;strong&gt;coming of Christ to power in heaven&lt;/strong&gt;. The &lt;strong&gt;end&lt;/strong&gt; is a very different event otherwise known as "&lt;strong&gt;the great day&lt;/strong&gt;"(Rev. 6: 16, 17, Rev. 16: 14) when Jesus leads his angels in the final battle to remove all earthly things apposing justice, righteousness, and truth according to Jehovah God from the face of the earth.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;See Jude 1: 11 - 16&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;[11] &lt;strong&gt;Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain&lt;/strong&gt;, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core. [12] These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; [13] Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved the blackness of darkness for ever. [14] And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, &lt;strong&gt;Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints&lt;/strong&gt;, [15] &lt;strong&gt;To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds&lt;/strong&gt; which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him. [16] These are murmurers, complainers, walking after their own lusts; and their mouth speaketh great swelling words, having men's persons in admiration because of advantage.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Since we are told according to scripture that we can identify the sign of the Son of man&lt;/strong&gt; (Jesus) in the sky (or his coming to power in the heavens) based on the signs of the times mentioned at &lt;strong&gt;Matthew 24: 3 - 14&lt;/strong&gt; - It can be concluded that a location in time can be marked as the beginning of that time, aka the days of Christ's heavenly rulership, and with further examination of the scriptures arrive at an educated conclusion as to when certain events that were to follow happened.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Now I Say To You Ex Jehovah's Witness:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You said&lt;/strong&gt; "All the evidence indicates that this heavenly resurrection began in 1918" (Revelation Climax book, p. 103, parr. 12)."&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You said: All the evidence"?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Answer:&lt;/strong&gt; Yes, all evidence does point to the year 1918 it's called an educated conclusion based on the scriptures of which there is nothing wrong in doing so. That's why we have the Bible to use.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You said: &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;What evidence? &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Answer: The evidence in the Bible as mentioned above.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You said:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Did they see it happen?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Answer:&lt;/strong&gt; I can asnwer this question from the Bible at 2nd. Peter 3: 3 - 5.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;You said:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Someone told them?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Answer: &lt;/strong&gt;Yes Jehovah God told them in his written word.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Here's a section from the book in question that you carefully left out:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Note I will insert verse for you to look up for certain sections.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;"All the evidence indicates that this heavenly resurrection began in 1918, after Jesus, enthronement in 1914 and his riding forth to start his kingly conquest by cleansing the heavens of Satan and his demons &lt;strong&gt;(see Matthew 24: 3 - 12, Rev. 6: 1 - 11)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Yet, those resurrected annointed ones are told that they must "rest a little while longer, until the number . . . also of their fellow slaves" is filled. &lt;strong&gt;(Rev. 6: 9 - 11)&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;div class="blogger-post-footer"&gt;&lt;img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/5872853369987620995-7479840378712927013?l=armedwithtruth.blogspot.com' alt='' /&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/7479840378712927013'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/5872853369987620995/posts/default/7479840378712927013'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://armedwithtruth.blogspot.com/2007/12/this-is-in-respons-to-ex-jehovahs.html' title='Re:  1st. 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